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13/08/2010
mischulz (100%)
Do these connectors come with the heat shrink tubing or do I have to order that separately?
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Leon
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you have to order it
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Lars
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Tubes are not included,you have to order separately.
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caflex
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must be ordered separately only come connectors
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TJ80
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No, you need the 4mm size.
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Turboprop
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Heat shrink tube will have to be ordered separately.
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dwain69
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Buy separate... http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5277
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POTIER
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no heat shrink
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TieffliegerRudi
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Kannst du auch einzeln Bestellen
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Jason
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No - they are separate. Good connectors though - converted all mine to XT60. Easier to solder, and not too tight a fit like EC3.
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Adam
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order separately
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Velibor
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They don't come with heat shrink. There are only connectors in package.
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Bubber78
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No heat shrink tubing. Buy some separately
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MONBRUN
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No heat shrink. Buy it separately
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Saurabh
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Enough guys... i guess he got the message.
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Rivelino
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you have to order that separately
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Miroslav
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You have to order them separately. I found this tube to work best with these connectors.
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avlisogeid
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hi. you must buy heat shrink separately. this item comes with nothing but connectors, very good quality!.
regards from Venezuela
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Scot
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Order it separately
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scaryaaron
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order it separately. Mine came with just the connectors in a bag.
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Julian
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You have to order that separately. Bye.
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Patrick
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No heat shrink is included. You will need 5mm or 6mm dia tubing. The 6mm is slightly too large, but you can make it slide in if you shrink one edge very very slightly first.
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basvaningen
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there is no heat shrink with this connectors
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Horseman
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Hi, You must buy them because they are not supplied with the XT Connectors.
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tano
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No, you have to order the shrink tube separately.
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Nanoha
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You have to order it separately
I use the 5mm tubes
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asciicsa
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No heat shrink. You have to get some.
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20/07/2010
tomasstrom (52%)
I like EC3. To much of a hazzle to change all now to XT60 when I have gotten EC3 for all instead. But if they come with this it's bloody annoying. Make up your mind please.
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TONY.ALVES
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No entendi o conteudo desta afirmao e no conheo esse EC3 . No pude ajudar , sorry.
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Andre
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Please, keep the discussion in english... Thank you.
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ryan.perera22
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*Andre, the funny thing is TONY.ALVES said something about him not understanding. haha sorry, google translator could only translate so much. If he can't speak english than theres nothing he can really do, I mean are you going to leave a spanish translation after everything you say?
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Saul
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The same thing happend to me, and i decided to build my own adapters, I do not changed the connectors for my batteries, i bought the 5 pairs for XT60 and 5 pairs for EC3, then i constructed my adapters for any occasion including for deans plugs. belive me they are going to do the same forever, I have 20 years in this hobby.
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Tugboat2
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to further lock up the battery market and further piss off over priced Deans.....Go Hobby King!
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destef1
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These XT60 connecters are bloody awesom! They fit together really snug and the connection is strong, They are easier to solder than deans plugs and they are easy to pull apart! Good work hobby king! I love em!
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Rivelino
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I changed everything for the xT-60 and I am very happy with it. Recommend the change.
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15/07/2010
???man (50%)
It seemed that the terminals are 6mm bullet connectors (XT60> 6mm??). Can anyone confirm?
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Khilra
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they are 3mm connectors. not 6 mm :-) Good connectors for smaller aplications, wanted to order some more, but sadly they went out of stock again...
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Khilra
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sry about that, i typed 3,5mm but with the 1/2 key, didnt show up in my answer though.
These connectors are 3,5mm.
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Nobby
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No 3mm very like the EC3 on better I think.Alot easier to solder inthat you don't need a 80watt iron to do it my 20 year old 25W iron does just fine once youve tinned the wires.
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Khilra
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3,5 mm bullet connecters are perfect match for the XT60 ***********hobbycity****/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=68 If the XT60 where only 3mm, they wouldnt fit properly :-) So these connectors are 3,5mm.
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TONY.ALVES
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no posso te ajudar ****prei mas demora tanto para chegar ...
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Saul
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The diam. is about 3.5mm so you can place cable for AWG #8, #9, #10, etc., (#8 is 3.26mm for diam.) I do not know why they named it XT60, the 6mm is just for the size of height of the inner hole of the connector itself, not for the metal connectors. By the way they are good conectors.
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Velibor
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Nope, they are around 3 mm.
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Per-AAke
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They are 3,5 mm bullet. / Perra
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Patrick
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No, it's 3.5mm. I believe thee 60 stands for 60A max current.
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14/07/2010
tt64 (58%)
If XT60 so good as said so many people, why its does not patented? ))))))))))
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BartekM
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You can be first :) !!!
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???man
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No point wasting time and money on patents. If it is well recieved by the market, dirt cheap clones are bound to appear. Just look at Deans for example. I can get Deans (clones) for USD0.07/pc in china and yet can perform as good as the originals. Profit margins for power connectors are low and the only way to earn is mass production.
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Nobby
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guys theyre doin good here why make a problem when there isn't one?.Iv'e used all types of connectors and in sysstems using 60 to 70amps at a time and theyve not let me down yet and theyre easier to get apart on a cold day and your fingers are numb.So just be thankfull they haven't put a PatPen on them as that would just push the $'s UP.get it!
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TONY.ALVES
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Vou trocar meus conectores por estes , atualmente uso deans mas como compro baterias na HK e elas esto vindo com eles ,
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tommo85
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Why does something have to be patented to be good. Hey, the Align range of T-Rex's are absolutely awesome, and they are patented, however, this does not stop companies cloning them. So why not just save the expense and not worry about patents. At the end of the day, if your product is comparable in price and of good-high quality you will get the sales anyway. Not to mention, that patents were originally introduced as a way to protect the customer and increase competition. However, years and experience have shown that all they do is cost money, only protect the holder if they actively pursue other companies themselves, and do not benefit the customer. Look into copy-left.
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Jan
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Most likely hextronik was to lazy to explain something simpel (the construction of that connector) in a complicated way to get it patented. I mean, it's a electrical connector, about the most simple part you can buy here. From what they write they also want to kick Deans ass, but for total domination of this connector it should be a fair bit cheaper (70ent a pair - deans are only twice as expensice).
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Kenneth Ablack
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Just buy the damn things and forget about asking stupid questions
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Saul
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Asian countries do not tend to patent their products, check the number of patents registered annually and the difference is huge compared with the Americans, that is called the technological gap. but there are many asian products that are as good as any other, you just have to try them.
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Tugboat2
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to further lock up the battery market and further piss off over priced Deans.....Go Hobby King
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Rivelino
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I changed everything for XT-60 and I'm happy and secure with this
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7/05/2010
Sokonomi (34%)
Why does HK bother with these? My lipo packs seem to come with this stupid plug now, but why?
Its larger and heavier, and no benefit over the old tried and true deans. Plus ive never had a deans melt on me before..
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Miles-away
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It's because of patents and copyright i guess. There was something on the forum about it. I like these plugs. For those who prefer deans: Well, remove the XT60 and solder Deans on your Lipo.
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BMW318TI
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Yes I have bought two sets after reading the reviews. But I am dissapointed they are to big, I love Deans!
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glbiggles
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I would suspect that Deans did not like the fact that Hobby city copies were better than the original. I find these plugs easier to solder. The size difference is minimal and does not affect me.
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mugen97
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In my case, Deans always make a spark when I connect battery and ECS. But XT60 didn't. That's why I use XT60.
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novost
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These are much easier to solder and the wrap with heatshrink than Deans.
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BMW318TI
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Mugen97, all connectors are making sparks, because of the electronics properties. These connectors are fine for big cars, planes etc. I've used them for 1/18TH cars, way to big when putting them together. So this not a Dean replacement, it depends on what kind of job you are using.
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nino
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I've just changed from deans plugs to these XT60 plugs and have notice a difference in run time,I get an extra 10-20seconds.On some of my home built A123 7S packs I can use 10 GAUGE wire with no problem soldering them on to these connectors.The weight is no issue cause they are about the same.
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Kerms
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Well the cost of these are certainly more than the deans (copy-cat ones). They are a little bit easier to use in my opinion. The connector is a little easier to work with than deans and avoids the mess of melted plastic and such. I think it is a good connector but it would be nice to have an option when buying batteries from this site.
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Shea
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idk all in all good connector
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JonesRC
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I think that these are better than Deans. Both connectors has cover around "hot" plugs. I had ones nice spark with deans and after that stopped using them. Now all connectors XT60 or 4mm HXT.
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kaptondave
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The new connector is much better than the Deans, mainly because of the way the wires connect. Deans have just a flat blade in the back which requires that you do a lap joint - the worst possible way to make a solder connection. The new connector has wells which allow a better mechanically and electrical connection and make it easier to hold the wire in position while soldering. My one complaint is that they soften if overheated. That problem can be partly offset by having the mating half plugged in.
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julthefast
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they had to pud theses because they where sued by deans, because deans are patented and HK was selling a much less expansive copy. In fact they are not better or worst. If you already have 100% deans, dont bother, but if your starting, they may worth it
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chiroman21
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My guess is they are more cost effective yet still reliable.
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BC Heli Dude
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I like these better because of the recessed wire pocket for saudering. much better than deans. switched all my helis over and built adapters for my batteries
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Andraz
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I gota word that there is some problems regarding patents so they arent allowed to sell them here any more
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pilotonboard1
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Hi,
The American company making the Deans are suing hobbycity (or wanted to), for delivering fake Deans-plugs. That's why copy-Deans are not used anymore by hobbycity. Olivier TX2TX
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skyhawkdc
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these are good plugs, easier to solder than deans and easier to get apart
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SHAHROM NURRIZAM
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I like this XT60 plug. Why? Easy to solder of cause. It also prevent spark while connect the lipo and easy to pluq the male to female.
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clod_buster04
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had plenty of deans melt on me, these are much better fit and more contact area than the deans t-plug connectors yes it is a little larger and heavier but not by much
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xhenrique
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Have you ever use deans running at 80amps or more???
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Asad
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These melted?
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Flashback
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My old foam plane has crash because the dean plug disconnected. This connector have a larger connected surface! More power cross section!
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Marinho
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I read one night on HK homepage that they had problems with deans connectors royalties or something like it, due to it all their batteries will came with another kind of connectors. One day after, this advise disappeared from the site, but the connectors were really changed on the batteries.
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aramid
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It has one HUGE benefit over Dean's - cost. Genuine Dean's plugs can't be bought in bulk, so they always cost you $1.50 per plug. I doubt HK, with their close ties to local manufacturers, wants to pay to ship a bunch of Dean's plugs from the USA to install on their parts, and they can't just make their own Dean's - WS Dean's is pretty aggressive about their patent. So HK designed their own plugs. And in my experience, XT60 are easier to solder, easier to connect, and tidier than Dean's.
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chfurrer
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This plugs are much nicer than the old deans. I soldered all my LiPo Packs to these plugs.
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JonesRC
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Hi Sokomomi, DEans has still other part that has completely visible connectors. At least for me happened ones sparky situation as both touched aluminun bag. Now I have moved completely to XT60 and 4mm bullets as those are completely protected. WBR JonesRC
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nitro
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aparently they reduce heat build up and a better connection
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nitro
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old batteries and planes have plugs you cant buy anymore the new plugs are for better flow of mah more power and faster discharge
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JonesRC
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If you see our reply helpful, please click thumbs up and HK will sponsor us with small credit to compensate our time and effort to help other customers. Thank's. JonesRC
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chrisn
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Because they are waaayyy better than Deans. They won't melt if you use the correct soldering technique - plug a male and female together when soldering, use at least a 60W soldering iron and cool with a wet cloth when soldering complete.
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Asad
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Tested it and 12AWG will go into the cavity fully forming he best bond with the connector. 10AWG is too thick to go all the way inside. Instead, you will have to solder a small portion of the wire in the half cut hole. It will make a bond but the mating area between the wire and the connector is kinda like what you would expect from 10AWG wire and W.S.Deans Ultra Connector. The verdict: It can be done but it is not as pretty or easy to do as the 12AWG wire. HK, please include small pre-cut pieces of heat shrink tubing.
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Mebf262a1
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Blame DEANS on this, they sued every producer of cloned "T" connectors and their original product is about $4.00 aditional to the battery price, I can tell that switching to XT60's aint a bad idea as long as they work perfect and are the new standard here. XT's are a litle bigger an slightly heavier but... you can change to DEANS any way. (I did).
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Kostas
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It is larger and heavier, but it can handle lots of current, and it is easyer to connect and remove. I have had a deans melt on me...
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Nobby
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Your wrong Sokonomi,there is a benefit in the XT60 it will pass more current due too the 'Round Pin'configuration of the plug due to greater surface area than the deans.
and on my personal experience:Have you tried to pull deans apart on a frosty morning when your fingers are numb,believe me these are alot easier
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TONY.ALVES
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Its possible that HK wants to change the patterns with it.
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ASW19
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Original Dean's are good, but there are many fake ones around. Patent is maybe one issue, but the most serious one for me (I had a couple of crashed due to this before finding it out), is that some of the cheap Chinese makers have not understood how the Dean connectors are working and what tolerances are critical for getting a reliable contact. Result is that sometimes you get bad contatcs in the air. Fake is not alwasy as good as the original...! even if it looks like. Personally I have change all my Dean connectors and these XT60 are really a good alternative. But be careful there are already bad copies showing up on the Chinese market. The ones I purchased from HK were good, and I hope they will keep the current supplier and control the quality, not move to some cheaper cost-down compatibles (not let the Dean story happen again).
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ASW19
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Look at following website to see the difference between "good" and "bad" XT60 connectors (remove spaces). http :// item.taobao**** / item.htm?id=5505941014 The text is in Chinese, but the pictures are clear.
Note that the 2 times I have ordered XT60 connectors from HK, they were "good ones" and even cheaper as when buying in China, it seems HK has a good relationship with the supplier. I hope they will keep the good quality and not be tempted to cost-down. The connector is a critical element in the chain... It must be of good quality, don't try to save money here like with the ***r fake Dean's
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Saul
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I think they do it to position a new product on the market, however I do not changed the connectors for my batteries, i bought pairs for XT60 and with deans plugs i had already, i constructed my own adapters for any occasion, belive me they are going to do the same forever.
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1/05/2010
bolshoy75 (73%)
Hi, Can it be soldered with 10awg wire? Or the hole is too small? thanks
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Aleks
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To solder, it will be normal.
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Tony
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yes it can but your need a "hot iron"' some of the smaller solder irons which have been made for light electrical work wont have the instant heat you need but rather just cook the plastic surrounds,carefully check one by doing the joint and then cooling off quick using cold water,care not to allow water to contact both terminats at once just use a wet sponge to cool the job
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Bruni
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Hello
The inner diameter of the solder side is 3,2mm.
The outer diameter of AWG10 ranges from 2.59 to
2.946mm. So it will fit.
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Andraz
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yes, you can the hole diameter is 3mm, AWG10 wire diameter is 2,6mm
Good luck
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Saurabh
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10 AWG is ok... BUT no more.
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madbuilder
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Actually, I found 12 awg to be tight. If you tin the leads as usual, the wire will expand too much. For 10 awg you might have to snip a few strands off the ends to get a good fit.
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reno911
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I have soldered up to 8 gauge using xt60 connectors. They are super easy to solder since you can push the wires into the connector and apply the heat to tin the joint.
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mugen97
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It fits with 12awg wire. but I think 10awg can be soldered cause soldering point is a half cutted hole
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Karel Skranka
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I am not sure what is 10awg wire. But if AWG means "American Wire Gauge" and 10awg is diameter 0,10in=2,58mm, than yes, it is possible.
Holes are with diameter 3mm
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Power_VANO
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As far as I know, 10AWG is the max that fits XT60 connectors.
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ppxav
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u r right ,the hole is too small , but if you don't care about overlaping a bit it's working with 10awg. i did it for my 600 heli
cheers
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nino
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Yes you can I've done it.
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simcher
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I have tried soldering with my 10AWG, it fits perfectly.
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Shea
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will work fine
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CAYESA
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Yes, both can be soldered, but you'll need a 60W or more solder.
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JonesRC
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Yes, it can be. But you need to cut part of thin wires off from wire to get rest of fit into XT60 hole. When soldering make sure then that tin gets into wire too. JonesRC
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Libelle
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12awg fits perfectly, 10awg will not fit into hole but still can be soldered. i use this connector on my Rhino 3700 25C
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kaptondave
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Yes, it will accept AWG 10 wire
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clod_buster04
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yes 10ga is fine the ends are not a full "tube" it is half cut away so your not actually sticking the wire into a hole
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Asad
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10AWG will fit but it will be a tight fit.
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aramid
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The hole is too small, but it still works because a portion of the barrel is only half-enclosed. It'll be harder to get heat-shrink on, but it does work.
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JonesRC
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Hi Bolshoy75, Yes they can even that hole is smaller. Just cut small part of wires with sidecutter and solder properly so that tin enters also to cutted wires. WBR JonesRC
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nitro
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you can but be carefull not to melt the plugs
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Williwaw
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Yes, with patients you can solder 10awg wire...just barley. I think 12awg is the best fit.
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JonesRC
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airezzz
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hi, no, from my experience 12awg is the bigest thay can take...
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pippo65
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It's half hole... You can put almost everything....
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Kostas
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Yes you can, the best way to do it is to tin the wire first then if needed use your dremel tool and grind down the soldered end so that it fits the connector. Hope this helps KTK
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Nobby
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If the hole is too small you can always cut the wire down to fit.To do this carefully peel back the outside strands of wire until you have the diameter you want for the plug,Then run some solder into the smaller wire then sweat into the connector after you have trimmed the excess wires around the side of the wire and if your neat you can pull the outside of the insulation on the wire up around the cut edges or put a small piece of shrink too tidy up OK...hope this helps
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GDragon
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I've soldered them with 12AWG and it seemed to be tight. So 10AWG could be a little bit too big.
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Master_22
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no i think its perfekt. i used 12awg... and 10 will go on i think
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Saul
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The diam. for the hole is about 3.5mm so you can use caliber up to #8, remember the following AWG calibers: #6=4.11mm, #7=3.66mm, #8=3.26mm, #9=2.90mm, #10=2.58mm, #11=2.3mm, #12=2.05 and so on.
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Velibor
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It can. I used 12 awg.
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14/04/2010
Lawrence (85%)
They filled 1000, had 3000 in stock, and now 2 days later out of stock again. Get in quick guys!
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paul
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yea man, me too, ive been wait for 1,5 months for my order and still backorder until now.
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daverp
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Thanks, for the tip
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Saurabh
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already in stock
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hwagener
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I have bought 3 sets of these, and many, many others do so. Planes have them, bnatteries have them, why choose something other?
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MATTIASMTB
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i think they should get quick too...a lot of products are out of stock
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JonesRC
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Yes, this item is for fast ones. I have now so many in my toolbox that no need to order for years (hopefully).
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chiroman21
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These things are tough to get ahold of.
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JonesRC
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Nobby
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your not whistling Dixxy mate
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13/04/2010
JamesDon (47%)
i tried to solder them... when i was filling in the solder, suddenly the connector melted... i dont know why...
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ANARIT-119
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yeah, right, i also faced the same problem.... the golden piece just came out...
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Lawrence
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If you do these often it is worthwhile making a XT60 heatsink. Buy a cheapo computer heatsink, or recycle one, then drill 4x small holes into it.
Use thermally conductive epoxy to glue in a male and a female XT60.
When you want to solder new leads, insert a new plug into the matching connector, tin the lead, drop it in and solder away.
The heatsink stops the heat building up and melting the nylon.
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Lawrence
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Or, if you only have a few to do, just plug 2 together to increase the metal mass for heat dissipation.
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crashman1
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Hi There
I have had no problems soldering them, you need to get them hot but join them quickly
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madbuilder
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It's good practice to help dissipate heat on small parts like this. Plug it into another connector, or place an alligator clip on the brass terminal.
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paul
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did you use liquid for soldering? i use staybrite soldering liquid very good and clean, and connector never been melted. if you use that liquid, even you use cheap iron results of soldering still perfect. thanks
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daverp
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turn your iron down or don't hold it on so long. Tin your wire, tin the connector, slide the two together and hold the iron on just long enough for the solder to remelt.
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Dennis
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Your solder is to hot. If you're soldering set your temperature lower and hold your solder not too close to the plastic.
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Tony
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solder iron to small / or not hot enough,if this is correct then you are over compensating for the low heat factor by holding the irin on the job for too long,therby putting exessive heat into the workpiece therfore you are cooking it instead,soldering must be done rather quickly with the heat keept in a local spot the prevent this, you can sometime get away withit by wetting it down with a damp sponge to cool it qiuck ,dont drop the job into water a water is a conductor and will short out the battery
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Andraz
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you got to be a bit quicker as the case is stil made from plastic that melts. Quickly fill in the solder then alow to cool a bit, while you wait put some solder on the wire that goes in, than heat up again while pushing in the wire and when it slips in nicely stop heating and wait it to cool. I did it like that earlier this day and got a god strong bond without any plastic melting
good luck on your soldering and have fun :)
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Saurabh
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plastic is not that heat resistant... take care while soldering. Use high wattage soldering iron.
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Tony
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a successful solder joint must be done quickly rather than slowly, if the iron you are using is a small low wattage iron then to do the job you have to hold the iron on the joint for an extended time therby allowing the heat to radiate down the metal parts and melting the plastic,to correct use a larger or hotter iron and quench or goll it down as soon as possible
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RichT
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Plug it into the opposite plug to help it keep position, and try to solder quicker / use a higher wattage soldering iron so you can be quicker.
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hwagener
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Take a solder-station with adjustable temperature. Put solder to all wires you want to solder, put solder to the connector, after everything is cold, solder them together. Should not melt the plastic if made fast enough...
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madbuilder
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*Tony you nailed it ** a cool iron is not the answer! A large iron tip at 800 degrees F will get things flowing quickly before the nylon melts.
Don't forget to plug two connectors to act as a heat sink. Or put an alligator clip.
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Bas123
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putt then together, then the heat has a place to go away, so it goes through the metal not through the connector.
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Karel Skranka
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too much heat - high temperature
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glbiggles
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If you solder up a lead about 150mm with plug one end socket the other. Then when soldering plugs put them on the end of this lead and the lead will act as heat sink. This is an old trick used on many types of connectors.
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nino
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You got too be quick when u solder and make sure you plug it into the other one.I recomend not using more than a 40 AMP soldering iron.
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Shea
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with a connector covered in plastic it is ideal to not heat the connector hot enough to melt the solder rather heat lightly and melt solder on connection, will hold and not melt the connector
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CAYESA
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You need to use a 60W solder and apply it for a short time. If you use a 30W solder, you need to aply hot during more time and then the yellow plastic becomes melted.
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Casey
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I'm not a very good solderer, but I use a 25A iron and left the male side plugged in while soldering so the connector would maintain its shape in the presence of heat. I've done about seven now with no problems whatsoever.
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JonesRC
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Be careful when soldering 10-12AWG wires. Easy to melt when trying properly done soldering. I use while soldering counter part for cooling down and holding pins in right position while soldering. JonesRC
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kaptondave
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I like these connectors but the manufacturer really needs to change the body material to one that does not soften so easily when soldering. Meanwhile there are things you can do. Use a low temperature solder (60% tin/40% lead), use a lower wattage gun or iron, and plug in the mating half of the connector while soldering.
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jeeep
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Heated for too long the connector.
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chiroman21
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They don't like heat. Try to keep the soldering iron only on there as long as needed. I melted the solder by touching it directly to the wire after I ruined 2 of them.
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ou8alizzard
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get a hotter solder gun and solder fast i have never melted one be sure to tin your wires first
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eszaqsc
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why don't you try to solder it whith the male and female part joint together, this trick is the same with soldering the deans plug with ease
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DukeZillo
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i use a 25 watts pencil soldering iron without problems
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helicopke
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yep, I had this problem too, I took too long soldering at most likely too high temp, the plug just melted in there... first time this happened to me so I took another plug, was more carefull and it was just fine.
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DukeZillo
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i solder mines with a 25watt pencil solder without problems
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salvix
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Always solder it with another connector plugged in to help dissipate heat. So if you're soldering the male connector, make sure to have the female connected (and vice-versa).
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aramid
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You got the plastic too hot. You have to work quickly when you're soldering to metal surrounded by plastic, otherwise it all goes horribly wrong. If you connect a pair together while you're soldering, it helps keep things cool and aligned, but you still have to be careful. Make sure you're using a 40-60 watt soldering iron with a decent-sized tip, and tinning everything before you start trying to stick things together.
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Uzy4962
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Hey JamesDon, you may have over heated the plug. Its often a good idea to connect the opposite plug whilst soldering so that the pins are kept in correct alignment during process. Further I have had far more success with these over deans. Neatly cut your wire then lay in the trench. Then drop your solder on top of the wire. You should get a nice neat connection. Great plug HK
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weijay
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That happened to me once. Battery packs or ESC purchased from HK have connection wires coated with lead free solder, which requires a higher temperature to melt. If you have a low power soldering gun which is only good for lead based solders then it will be very hard to melt the solder on the ESC or the battery back and end up heating your XT60 and wires for too long. So, what you need is a more powerful soldering gun with higher temperature, which could allow you to finish the job in a shorter amount of time. Or you can pre-coat the wires and the plug with lead solders then join up the plugs.
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Williwaw
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Put a set of connectors together when you solder them that way if you overheat a connection the conductors will stay in place.
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JonesRC
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tommo85
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Your soldering technique is lacking, you let the tab get WAY too hot, and it melted the plastic. No matte what you are soldering, be careful of this. Deans plugs are notorious for it.
Tin the end of the wire with solder before you start to solder it onthe the plug, then put your shrink wrap over the wire and close to the battery. 'Wet' the soldering iron tip with solder, and pile it on. put this onto the tab, move the iron onto the bottom of the tab, put the wire in immediately, remove heat immediately once it is immerced in the ***l and let it cool and solidify before moving. move up shrink wrap and heat with your soldering iron, hair dryer, or lighter.
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DarkHeli
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Try using a higher wattage iron so that there is less contact time between the iron and connector\ plastic.
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DarkHeli
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You have held the heat too long, or soldering iron does not have enough wattage.
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Nobby
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I think youve got the ron a bit hot? you might try sweating the solder into the wire before you put wire to connector,and just ***l a little into the connector at one edge so you can re***l the solder (already in the wire) by touching the iron to the small amout in the cup of the connector* and the two should just melt sweetly together with only a minimum of heat applied to the edge of the connector cup at the small ***l of solder you put in the cup before.
Hope this Helps JamesDon
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GDragon
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Don't put the iron for too long. I've soldered them on 320C and a drop of neutral flux. 2 seconds for each contact and everything is nicely soldered... :)
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12/04/2010
HyungRyul (45%)
Finally.... they filled close to 1000 orders and no whave 100 in stock
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JonesRC
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Yes, this item is for fast ones. I have now so many in my toolbox that no need to order for years (hopefully).
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11/04/2010
etiennevdb (34%)
Stock Levels!! Please Hobby King, get some stock on this so we can order ( I want 3 packets!!) Come on, get some stock!!!!
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etiennevdb
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Great, I saw a number available and ordered (more than a years supply!!) But within 3 days I saw a negative stocklevel again (sic!)
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Dareba
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They stock levels :-))) wery slow
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JonesRC
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I managed to buy so many packs that I am out for a while. Hopefully no need to buy more for years. Most probably other buyers have done same thing and that's why stock amount is sold out so fast.
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Asad
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The connectors are in stock right now!
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Nobby
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go look tonight 23/5/10
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18/03/2010
Fred.W (63%)
Why don't HK make enough of this product to meet demands? The last shipment did not go into available stock. Why should you have to pay and go on to back order to get these things? Previous shipment was available for only a few days and I missed out.
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Fred.W
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Again I get email saying they've arrived but in fact there were none available.
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Burnaby
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Supply and Demand. More of latter than former. HK is not the mfg, last shipment look to be ~1000 but still not enough to meet BO. Rest assure they only got a fraction of their order and are as unhappy about not getting their full order as you are. Only solution is to raise price till Supply exceed demand. Would increasing the price till no one wants to pay for it so it's never BO make you happier.
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Brian
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I have an open order with these backordered, I can confirm they have gone from backordered to reserved. If you want to get them ASAP, I suggest you put the order on the books.
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eadward
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I think they are a great connector, they are designed so that they stay clean even in off road trucks. Unfortunately I stocked up on these from ******* at twice the price before I found out Hobbyking was now using and selling them.
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Nobby
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always check your mail and have a mail reminder sent
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18/03/2010
RGibson (48%)
To: HobbyKing Support
Why aren't the female XT60 connectors sold individually? I have WAY more batteries than I do chargers and ESC's, so now I have a bunch of male connectors just sitting around collecting dust...what a waste!
Also, as far as availablility is concerned, I understand that since you don't use a distributor, you are at the mercy of the manufacturer. However, if you could provide a more accurate ETA, it would be greatly appreciated! Put some pressure on them for a firm date!
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Lawrence
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Yeah it is pretty epic how many of these are on backorder, and how quickly they dissapear when they arrive. Oh well, I have a ton of other stuff on backorder I will be waiting ages for too.
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hwagener
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Your absolutely right, but at this price, i collect those male connectors and laugh at it ...
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11/03/2010
HibridOPT (66%)
Stock on 10/03/2010 (-736). How long will it take for you to have this connectors on stock?
You sell your bateries with these plugs but then there are none available.
Please get stock from this connector ASAP
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13/02/2010
Aero_eBook (74%)
Of course: The easiest solution is to just dedicate a battery to the model, permanently connect through the ESC and use the balance charge connector with the little Turningy balancer they sell! It works fine and I can recharge right on front seat or hood of car.
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Lawrence
(85%)
This is a terrible idea.
Just use plugs and get 8 batteries, that way you can stay in the air for an hour!
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Nobby
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might shorten the life of the ESC/Battery unless youve got a switch in line but its alot of possible amps in that battery?,and what about the battery if you cant get to a charger? the cells will go under volt and possible dangerous situation.!!eg FIRE!
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9/02/2010
Charlesd (79%)
I bet some people are wishing this was stocked in the USA as well. I am so tried of waiting for great products to come. Yeah, I know about EMS service. Great by the way, but we can stock some more in the USA warehouse too right HK?
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15/12/2009
Williamjsa (73%)
Thats ridiculous. 3 yeards ago, standard was 4mm diameter conectors, them T conector, now those ones? Are those definitives? When I fly in my club, and I forget bateries, need to charge one, or something like that, its imposible for me do that, because standard for my, its not same for all people in club. Please, make a defenitive standard conector. Now, exist to many options, 4mm, T conector, EC3, Traxxas, HT60. For small bateries, standard is JST and its for many time. Its not possible make a definitive standard for rest of batteries?
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mikebergy
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Just make an adapter. It's easy to do, and then you only have to make the one adapter, not switch over all your packs. That will also make it easy to borrow a battery from one of your friends.
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Nobby
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Just get a bunch of adapters and no more problems unless youve got a lot less room than me?
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4/11/2009
-Redsands- (99%)
What is the difference between this adapter and the HXT 4mm Gold Connector? I just changed all of my old stuff over to the HXT 4mm Golds now this is the new standard.. arrggghhh !!
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alouetteIII
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I know how you feel Redsands! Half way thru my 4mm conversions, then this. Anyway have decided to order 12x5 sets, crack open a Corona or two and go the conversion day. Jason5001, Might be a good idea to get some stock in like 10,000 sets? Boys at Deans will be laughing at your campaign to convert people over and you no stock? Also can we please have an idea when the XT120 are due in?? that would help.
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Nobby
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I like the saftey aspect on this type of connector a it's a lot of possible bang in some of the lipos nowadays.And tee do a great job of keeping the bird safe.
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11/10/2009
maukabud (52%)
So where is that XT-60/deans adapter that Jason promised us? If I start getting batteries with this plug OEM I'd probably use the adapter rather than soldering new Deans on, but I don't wanna change all my harnesses over just yet. I'm lazy like that.
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Jason5001
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All cell assembling plants have been shipped the XT60. Starting from next month* new packs will have the XT60 already attached. Also planes will begin to have the new connector also. Female on the battery. Male on the ESC.
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Jason5001
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Also, there is a bonus side to this. If needs be, you can use 3.5mm gold connectors to connect to the female plug. The connection is not as strong but will suffice for some applications.
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maukabud
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Interesting! Thank you for the info Jason! So, no XT60/deans adapter planned? I know I can easily make my own, but I gotta say, everything I have gotten from H/C so far has had *really* nice solder work, I'm impressed!
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2/10/2009
ravidguy (22%)
Can anyone tell me what is the weight of a per ??
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Solitaire
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6.7g per pair compared to 5.1g for the offshore Deans
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kaptondave
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7 grams
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20/09/2009
m_werner (56%)
Is there enough surface to wire two packs in series with these?
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Aero_eBook
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Did U mean PARALLEL?
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bothal3
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Series or parallel Y leads will not be more difficult to make than with the deans, depending on the thickness of the wires you are using.
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Paul
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No
it's a hollow pin that the wir is inserted to
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20/09/2009
Tomco (55%)
When are 140 amp ones going to be available?
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Lokasso
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I just need something like this too. 180A would be better (and safer), but 140A would do for a little less time...
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18/09/2009
Paul (56%)
I'm going to give them a shot, and convert every thing. 14AWG wire, what size heat shrink will be best?
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shorebird
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5mm is the only size that fits.
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13/09/2009
manicrc (62%)
I personally would rather the batteries come with bare wires myself. I have too many batteries, chargers, and vehicles all with Deans connectors to change. I would also like to see a performance comparison between Deans and these.
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8/09/2009
Fidelity (77%)
I don't see a single comment as to the resistance levels or quality vs EC3 or Deans. Can anyone comment on how these connectors rank?
I heard EC3 are VERY high in resistance and shouldn't be used for over 40A Constant. (As told to my by Castle Creations). EC3 connectors have very thin straps that push out from the plug and the actual service area for contant is very small. Now Deans has a much larger contact area.
So back to my question. How do these connectors rank in terms of resistance?
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trucheek62
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mathaew: please look at the pictures, i think you can see how heavy duty the connectors look. i ordered 100 sets just on hobby kings record* i have lots of confidence after many years of service with hobby king. these connectors will probably take over the market. thanks deans for forcing hk into making the new plug* i think deans will be sorry.
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sabona
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yey. back in stock.
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6/09/2009
Burnaby (71%)
3.5mm bullet for battery/esc/motor for <60A, 4mm for =>60A. Two kinds does it all.
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5/09/2009
hubgar (62%)
why not just sell all batteries without connectors. I've already chosen my standard!
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Kaisar
(72%)
2.79/10=0.279$ connector or 0.558$ pair. I wonder why so much people want their batteries 0.279$ cheaper!(add the soldering for 0.40$) HK is planing to use them to everything so no soldering needed for those have dificulty with it.
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Scott
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I made a couple adapters between DEAN and XT60. You might have a slight bit more resistance but you will not see it in flight. Someone mentioned pulling them apart, just use a little bit of oil around the female connector and it works much better. My issue with Deans has been getting the spades to make a proper connection and not spark.
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5/09/2009
saxpg (83%)
From what I have seen on the picture, design is very good. Soldering way is OK, but I hate bullet connectors on these. Deans had a great and secure connection. Anyway, ordered 5 packs, and hope they become standard.
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5/09/2009
Asad (95%)
What is the maximum gauge of wire that these connectors can take?
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trucheek62
(85%)
to many cry babies: just make an adapter and use any one you choose* this looks like a great great plug, the best of the deans and the astro flight. great work hk. thanks trucheek62
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insang
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looks like 10awg is max
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Williwaw
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12awg fits, but it's a little tight. I have not tried 10awg but it might work?
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5/09/2009
snacks (66%)
Anything smaller in the works? To replace micro deans and JST...
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5/09/2009
Burnaby (71%)
Hate shrink tubes. Have to resolder if they break. On bullet can pop out busted housing.
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4/09/2009
Burnaby (71%)
What's the advantage of these over bullets which are dead easy to solder with no worries about melting nylon (yummy smell).
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vasy1
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Why do people use Deans over bullets? Preference. I do think this are better then Deans.
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shorebird
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Just ordered 15 sets. Looks good??? We need a standard as to how the new batteries will be polorized. PAUL
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Xifist
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They are better than deans, easyer to plug togeather and easyer to solder. But why not just sell all batteries without connectors. I like the bullets alot better becuse you dont need the shrink tube.
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manicrc
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It is impossible to connect a Deans with reverse polarity...unless you solder it that way :-) They are also easier to insulate properly with shrink...at least they are for me. I've had bullets touch together where shrink had abraded off and make nice fireworks.
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4/09/2009
chewy (33%)
I wish you would just settle on 2 standards, 1 for <60A (3.5mm) and the other for > 60A (5mm) instead of this hodgepodge of connector types.
That is, if you insist on including connectors.
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Burnaby
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no connector period cause even bullets differ in length plus 4mm for >60A. NO CONNECTORS on batteries, sell them cheaper or connectors cheaper.
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vasy1
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Yes, sell damn batteries with bare wires!! BTW, this will not happen if HK wants to get the world to use their new connectors :)
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4/09/2009
Malfamartin (71%)
If this is the one which should blow our socks I must say that they did not blew my socks for sure. It is the same old style as Deans but round connectors instead of flat. This still has to be soldered with shrink tubes. I settled for EC3 some time ago and I'm glad I did, because this is no better than Deans. I'm not impressed at all. I really hope that HK comes to their senses and sell LiPos without connectors.
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insang
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yep.. lower the production cost and pass it on to customer. just heat shrink the ends of the wires and ship it without connector's
most of us end up cutting it off and putting out own, like EC5 tha I love, or my friend with is traxxas connectors. etc.
Please HK. ship ALL batteries without ANY connectors
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vasy1
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EC3 are ****! Used them, got rid of them. Such a **** design. Hope this are better, gonna go order 20 now.
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Tarmo
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It's crazy how many different types of connectors you can find on he batteries. And I don't use none of them. I almost always have to cut them away. Please keep the prices low and let us choose the right connectors. just pure leads on batteries and you can cut the wires just where you want for right lenght.
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Burnaby
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+1 on no connectors. socks on, sticking with 4mm bullets. As said same basic Deans design with same problems.
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vasy1
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Looks like same basic design with out the Deans problems. Hope they work as advertised, or at least close. Sure you can melt if you overheat the connectors, out of 100 I've done, only had problems with a few at 1st. Don't forget to use flux!!! Sure some solder has flux inside, but dipping ends into flux makes soldering deans or any other connectors no problems at all.
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Burnaby
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I have lots of trouble with 12awg wire soldering to deans even after loading up on flux. 12awg takes a lot of heat, maybe just blame it on my 50w iron which does the bullets fine.
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vasy1
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I've done as think as 10awg, that is about the max. 150w gun helps :)
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Burnaby
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Going with bullets don't have to replace the broken 30 yr old Weller gun.
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monkeyheli
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I am happy with HK selling lipo with connectors.
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monkeyheli
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oops...given 'insang' a wrong +1 point... shld have been -1 since his statement "most of us end up cutting it off " not really true....
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Birdy
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I got some of the XT60's from a friend and replaced some deans with it. I am using is at currents of up to 80A and it is not even getting warm. The other application is consuming 2000 watt with the same cool results. It might be rated at 60A, but it can handle quite a lot more.
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Robbie
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I don't understand why you don't have a good stock of these connectors and you sell new lipos with this connectors. how should people use those lipos ??
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4/09/2009
Mel279 (74%)
When will the 140A plug on sale?
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Jason5001
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I haven't seen the T2 prototype yet, so I guess around 1-2 months away from having XT140's
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Mieciu
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current product title: XT60 Connectors Male/Female (5pcs/set)
shouldn't be 5 pairs instead of 5 pcs? Regards Mieciu :-)
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madbuilder
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Dude, 140 amps for real? You'll need booster cables! Double the voltage (# cells) instead haha.
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4/09/2009
Kaisar (72%)
Nice, hope they become the new standard
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vasy1
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Ditto!
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shorebird
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The square end should be the red positive wire. Same as the EC3. Female should be the battery end.
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shorebird
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The fit is a little tight. The female plastic part could be a few thousands smaller to make it easier to plug and unplug. Otherwise it's a great connector. ..The square end is marked +. Good job HK.
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slumberjer
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Please restock ASAP..no point if it is out of stock all the times...
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Jacob
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Will these ever come back in stock? i have been about 2 months..
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Muza
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We all admin the Deans Connectors were quite good, when the Tamiya and some old bullet conenctors where the only choice. But as in every area, you either evolve or die. The XT60 brings the connector to a new level. I admit that they are a bit larger in size, but if the size but assuming you are buying these for higher current, this size difference is nothing. If you are too concerned about the size, then just trim your wires a bit, or move on to the 1mm bullets - hell they are a lot smaller. I used to try different soldering irons with different solder wire and even solder paste to get the best results, but no large Deans Connector, no matter original (better coating) or clones (with cheaper metal) compares to the XT60. It takes 2 minutes to solder the connector if you have the soldering iron ready. I really like the small channels around the solder "tubes" on these which makes a perfect fit for heatshink. With deans you always had a risk of "non 100% tight shrink" coverage if you did not leave a small gap between the wire and the connector body. Great design!
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