HobbyKing Online R/C Hobby Store : Turnigy Typhoon 450H 2215H Heli Motor 3550kv (450 class)

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19/08/2010
crush (38%)
does it come with connector? my E-max motor came with connectors. I hope this comes with connector as well. Order already on way.

Bubber78 (67%)
No connectors. you have to buy them sepretly

scaryaaron (22%)
no connectors... you'll have to solder on your own.

reduans (60%)
no connectors .. use this bullet connector http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=67&aff=162483

scaryaaron (22%)
no connectors.... you'll have to supply your own.

13/08/2010
Panikatak (45%)
Good item tnx hobbyking

30/07/2010
Good2Go (100%)
So I had a crash and my ESC got jammed into the cooling fins and broke them. The motor is fine, but I had to remove the cooling fins so that the motor would be balanced. Do you think I can run this without the cooling fins? Hopefully the motor does not heat up too much. There are many motors without this cooling fin arrangement.

rapghsi (80%)
I ran this motor without a cooling fan, just test flught it and check heat, 50C is max, if you don't over it enjoy :)

This customer was awarded a credit for their answer.

Good2Go (100%)
Thanks. Runs pretty cool even without the fan.

M David (72%)
I would say try it. IMHO, cooling fins on motors don't work anyway.

nomedmon (53%)
just check your temps and make sure to add a few extra air holes for some of the blades down draft to help cooling.

27/07/2010
Akshay (100%)
i need a spare shaft of this motor....is it available

4/07/2010
calee (35%)
Hi Friends:
I use this motor in a HK450GT CCPM fullalloy and it works OK, I need another and there's not in stock. I bought a Turnigy Typhoon 450H 2218H Heli Motor 3450kv (450 class). Is it OK too for this heli? I use a ESC Turnigy Plush 40A.
Thanks a lot

markdavey (34%)
The 2218H has more torque that the 2215H. Both are suitable for your heli.

1/07/2010
helifly (72%)
I purchased two of these motors. When putting on the pinion gear I noticed that the flat notch was large on one and smaller on the other. The smaller one puts the pinion gear to high. Could this shaft be in backwards? Can you turn it around, how? How can you make the flat spot on the shaft larger?

Demon (73%)
Hey helifly, Yeah its easy to sort the shaft out and it sounds like it is indeed backwards, You need to unscrew the two Phillips head screws on the fan assembly (on the back of the motor), that will grant you access to the grub screws that you need to remove to take out the shaft and motor housing. Once thats done its fairly easy to flip the shaft round and re-install it. (i think there is also an E-clip on the front you may need to take out). hope that helps, Demon

helifly (72%)
Thanks for your reply. I had thought that this would be your advice. I will try to reverse it.

helifly (72%)
After further inspection the shaft is actually long and turning it around isn't going to work based on where the flat spot is for the set screw. It looks like I have no choice but to try to grind down the flat section closer to the motor, which will lower my pinion gear to where I need it. Has anyone done this to a motor shaft, any advice?

Hawk flyer (34%)
Im sure you already have been told to just file the flat spot I used a dremel tool and extended the flatspot down some of the after market pinions are a bit short so the set screw is up higher

helifly (72%)
Thanks, that is what I did and it worked out well.

11/06/2010
vhoward1122 (53%)
Has anyone used a prop adapter and a 6 x 5 prop on this motor? What amps and wattage would be expected?

Demon (73%)
Although the motor should be fine for a plane, it is intended for heli use... having said that, i would imagine the current draw to be in the region of 15 - 20A, so on a 3S lipo that would be arround 220W. Hope that helps.

vhoward1122 (53%)
Thanks, I think I have found a different motor that meets my needs better.

flyingscot (54%)
I am using this on a pushy cat prop jet with a Turnigy sentry 40amp esc and a 4.75x4.75 prop. Lipo is a turnigy 3cell 2200 20c. It goes like a rocket. Still to use full throttle

vhoward1122 (53%)
That's cool. However I have decided to look for a motor in the 600 to 700 watt range for the Funjet Ultra.

4/06/2010
daboiz (36%)
Are bullet connectors fitted to this so it will plug into K-Force ESC plugs?

calvorotato (29%)
un buen motor lo recomiendo es el 4 que compro

dkircali (66%)
There is no bullet connector soldered, you need to buy bullet connectors as well

japie22 (49%)
No connectors are fitted, you have to solder your own

MtnBikeGeek (78%)
No bullet connectors or mounting hardware (M3 size)included with this motor.

FRENZY GUY (22%)
no connectors are supplyed with this motor,i use the 4mm bullets on mine

stratos05 (47%)
No connectors supplied with this motor.

markdavey (34%)
Motor comes with bare wires so you will need to solder your own bullets on.

nestel (50%)
No there are no bullets with this motor.

3/06/2010
Starman97 (48%)
How many poles? I need the info for the Superbrain40A datalogger.

nestel (50%)
6 poles for this motor

11/05/2010
Branden (63%)
will this fit into the 500 series HK helicopters?

Helimaniacos (97%)
no, this motor is for 450 size

JOSE ANTONIO (60%)
funciona bastante bien, el refrigerador que lleva montado en la parte superior ayuda a que no se caliente tanto. Buen motor para helis tamao 450

angel1 (58%)
No sure wont

robertx (21%)
No it is for 450

Manoel-SC (36%)
dont, this motor using in the hk 450 helicopters

TONY.ALVES (53%)
Not sure but its possible . Probably you will get some power decrease on hovering

markdavey (34%)
You want the 500H motor for a 500 size...

20/04/2010
beenfly'n (57%)
Does this motor need to be lubricated, and if so, how and where to lubricate. Thanks.

alergigo (63%)
i think like all engines, like to have some lubrication (just in the bearings, just a little drop of oil (10 batteries)

remember :just a little drop

Demon (73%)
To be honest brush-less motors don't need much maintenance at all, i have used mine for a year now and have just opened it twice to check everything inside looked good and was clean etc etc. some light oil on the bearings (3In1 or sewing machine oil) will help protect the bearings once in a while though.

Hope this helps,
Demon

Kostas (47%)
Generally speaking brushless motors do not require lubrication, because they use sealed bearings. Some heli pilots like to lubricate their heli bearings by injecting special grease in the bearings, which requires removal of the bearings from the motor. I have several motors over 5 years old, medium use that are performing well without lubrication...

angel1 (58%)
Not really, but you can lube the bearing if you want.

sikky (64%)
3in1 oil or ask your lhs almost all motors need somr lubrication for a long life..

markdavey (34%)
Bought 2 and not lubed either, both run fine.

18/04/2010
robertocasper (28%)
I have same questions as tonybooger.
Come on guys! Help us out
Thanks!!

this motor???

I will be using the Turnigy Plush 40amp.

Also what 'Cut-off' setting do I use for a HK-450 heli, a 'soft-cut' or 'cut-off', and what cut-off voltage doi I set?

Thanks.

madbuilder (57%)
Use a "high" cut-off to protect your lipo battery before its voltage drops too much. Use a soft cutoff: this means it will gradually reduce power, giving you a clue that it's time to LAND!

robertx (21%)
soft-cut 3,1v

Kostas (47%)
I would use no cut-off or soft cut-off. For a three cell pack use 9 volts. I highly recommend an external countdown timer with alarm. Any time you use cut-off you are taking a chance with your heli.. what altitude, attitude will you be when the cutoff occurs.

Kostas (47%)
Always use soft on heli!! as for the voltage I would not go below 3.0V per cell.

helibrit (42%)
as I was telling tonybooger set soft cutoff for heli so main blade are not forced to stop dead and if you do more than hover set middle cutoff volt and high for hovering this will help make lipo last longer. flysafe fly well Helibrit

Davor (70%)
Try soft cut off with 3V

15/04/2010
tonybooger (46%)
Is anyone able to tell me what timing on my ESC I should set with this motor???

I will be using the Turnigy Plush 40amp.

Also what 'Cut-off' setting do I use for a HK-450 heli, a 'soft-cut' or 'cut-off', and what cut-off voltage doi I set?

Thanks.

tonybooger (46%)
I dont think you can have a 'no-cut off' Its either soft cut, or cut off, only options I think

Demon (73%)
Soft cut off means that the motor slows down for about 45 seconds and then stops to let you know the battery is running low - Hard cut-off will turn the motor off instantly (VERY bad for a helicopter). Hope that helps

helibrit (42%)
for heli you would want to use soft cuttoff if you use cut off the blades will stop dead at shut down also set your esc at middle cutoff volt for general flying or high if just learning to hover this will make lipos last longer hope this helps got this info from helifreak**** when I started to research fly safe fly well hellibrit

20/03/2010
tonybooger (46%)
Hey all, I have ordered this motor for my first CP build, along with PART#F050 11&12t pinion(from HK-450 parts list).
BUt no realise that this motor has a larger shaft(3.17mm) than the pinions I have ordered, which have a 3mm hole...

Is there any 10,11,12T pinions suitable for this motor available on this site?

Anyones help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

r_g_r (88%)
Hey, you might want to take a look at the comments of Part F050.
The pinions of "Part # F050" have 11 and 13 tooth with a inner diameter of 3.17mm.
They should fit this motor perfectly!

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tonybooger (46%)
THank you r g r, I dont know where I went wrong, I must have mistaken for something else I was looking at. Thanks very much for you help! Im glad to know I have the right parts coming!
Thanks

4/02/2010
Batlaw (67%)
Can anyone tell me what size mounting screws should be used (not the length.

DocS9788 (50%)
WHY OH WHY do they NOT include mounting screws with this item??? WHAT a Hassle!!!

pofex (67%)
I have bought this motor and the HK 450 v2 and I haven't the screws for the motor... Don't include with motor or with the HK 450. I don't know if it is a problem with my order only...

madbuilder (57%)
Hey guys, make sure to pick up a pair of M3 machine screws to mount this bad boy.

Warning: My motor wires run directly underneath the bottom of the screw hole. So I put the shortest screw I could find to avoid drilling into the wire!

Good news, you may be able to steal screws from your old computer. They look similar to 6-32 UNC but have finer thread. Look on Wikipedia "Computer case screw".

*******en.wikipedia****/wiki/Computer_case_screw

13/01/2010
Radiumf (60%)
Does this motor come with the mounting bracket and mounting bolts?Thank you

Radiumf (60%)
Nevermind, doesn't need a mounting bracket. I do have another question. What timing should be used with this motor if using a Turnigy Plush ESC in an HK450 kit? Thanks!

Extra Rc (54%)
hi there ! i used a turnigy sentry 40 with medium timing and it works perfectly....... i had to cut (2x)3mm screws to make it fit the motor

angel1 (58%)
No it does not.

Maccanaut (21%)
This motor comes with nothing but the motor. No screws, pinions, mounting brackets or anything else. Damn good buy just the same.

markdavey (34%)
No, the motor is 'bare' you receive motor only.

8/10/2009
supergps (77%)
Hey people,
What is the maximum power o/p you've measured on this motor?
somebody mentioned 880Watts on 2218.
people have mentioned that 2215 is more efficient than 2218.
how does 2215 compare to 2218 in power output?

supergps (77%)
Any inputs on this please?

alergigo (63%)
i would like to know the same thing as you.
anybody know

18/09/2009
Kiteboard101 (65%)
I NEED HELP, purchased this for HK450 build + (Hobbyking SS Series 40-50A ESC and TURNIGY 3A UBEC w/ Noise Reduction) have everything wired up and I can not get the motor to consistently start and run smooth. Diagnonsed with an rimpax 45a esc and motor works and tested ESC + bec combo on another motor and works perfect. How should I program the esc to work with this motor???? I have messed around with the ESC but to noavial have not found a winning combo...
Brake Setting?
Throttle Setting?
Timing Mode Setting?
Pulse Width Modulation(PWM) Setting?

xero67156 (52%)
I think in the discussions for the 450, someone stated that the SS series esc have trouble keeping up with motors running more than 2200-2300 RPM/V

30/08/2009
bothal3 (98%)
Am I just unlucky? Am I the only person who encountered problems? (maybe received factory flops)
I ordered 2 Turnigy 2215 helicopter motors to test for the HK450.
My results: 1 arrived "dead". It seems to have a wire not connected as it "jittered" when switched on and that was at any throttle setting.
The 2nd one impressed me. It worked fine for a few flights. I then heard an ugly screeching sound.
On investigation something on the motor became skew or shrunk. The rotor touches the stator and also tries to separate (move away) from the stator when increasing the rotational speed.
I am concerned because if that is what I could expect from the motor for the HK500, I should not go there!
Did anyone use these motors for a while to find out how long can it really last?

DocS9788 (50%)
You're MUCH luckier than I am. I ordered this motor and there is NO way...simply NO way I can fit it into the frame of my HK450. It is simply TOOOO big in diameter. So...how did you PROs get the thing into the frame? Also spent the better part of a DAY trying to find a Pinion gear "IN STOCK" anywhere in the WORLD ... Why can't they INCLUDE a 3-gear set (11T, 12T, 13T) with the motor? Mine 2215 is sitting UNUSED until some Design Engineer can tell me HOW to install it without completely redesigning the frame.

madchattersa (84%)
no way you can get it into the fame???...it falls in as if it were made exclusively for the heli......i'll bet if you try singapore, you'll find pinion gears galore...for a few dollars....broaden your horizons

RCER88 (32%)
I have this motor. I had NO problems installing it in my 450. The screw holes are not straight across from each other but it fits nicely inside the chassis and still adjustable so you can get the proper gear mesh.

7/08/2009
gehall63 (59%)
Does anyone know how many poles in this motor, 2/6/12 ? What setting are you using on your ESC, low, med, high?

mr.sneezy (54%)
It's 6 pole. It has six magnets if you look inside.
Most ESC's use Low Timing for fast outrunners like this one.

15/07/2009
mr.sneezy (54%)
The 2215H is out of stock as I write this, but there is a similar 2218 in stock. A little lower kv (apparently) and a little heavier. Anyone tested one, or seen flight reports of it ?
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nowinkk (82%)
Looks like the price of this motor has increased.

Maccanaut (21%)
I have one on my Skya 450 Pro and also on my HK450GT and the motor is INSANE. Running a 13t pinion and the head speed just scares the crap out of me really. U can see how she goes....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH5cX8ev9HI

I settled for this motor cos i was tired of waiting for the 3550kv motor to come in stock.

29/06/2009
EatAtJoes (94%)
Motor temp runs at 24 deg centigrade even under extreme loading, ambient temperature 19 degrees, pulling 30 amps for 1.5 minutes does not heat motor up, have a look at my wiki 133 for the results, look for 2215H should be at the top of the list.
Elias (EatAtJoes)

28/06/2009
drdiscus (50%)
Belt CP mot? 11T pinion yes...will this outside diameter clear the Belt's motor bay fairing? Close? Belt motor is 27.5mm and very close. Anyone comment? Have to grind shaft to shorter? Please let me know if mot runs coooool.

14/06/2009
EatAtJoes (94%)
After multiple tests and Eagle Tree Logger with Optical RPM sensor I can say with 100% accuracy the following

This Motor is a 4000KV rating not 3550kv

12T Pinion Yields 3200 Head Speed
11T Pinion Yields 3000 Head Speed
10T Pinion Yields 2650 Head Speed

The Hovering in all modes above is a tiny 12A very efficient
Max Current 31Amps

Best performance Pinion for 450 Heli is the 11T, Head speed drops from 3000 to 2900 during 12 deg pitch pumps and draws 31 Amps flight times normal sports flying is around 9 mins.

Very pleased with this motor, 7 Amps less draw than the E500 and 5 Amps less drain than the 2836 in hover mode.

The 2836 is a great motor, heaps of power and draws 35Amps at 12 deg pitch pumps so all in all this 2215 motor is more efficient and has the power required for a 450 Heli.

Just Beware that if you place this on the HK450 with a calculated 12T pinion then you run the risk of the head exploding under the stress of over speed, change it to 11T and all will be fine.

Hope my results have helped you.

I will be keeping my 2836 in my FPV450 and keeping the 2215 in this heli, but buying 2 more of the great motors for my other 2 450 heli's.

Efficiency, Power, Weight.

Recommended!

Regards

Elias (EatAtJoes) visit the rcgroups HK450 forum for more info or the HK450 dot com web site.

marioverburg (55%)
Would be great if there would be a 2,3mm shaft version or 2,3 shaft available for this motor.

CRJ700 (56%)
I am curious why you say you will continue to use the 2836 for FPV flight over the 2215. Especially since the 2215 is more efficient. Can you please tell me what your reasoning is. Thanks

13/06/2009
EatAtJoes (94%)
Well all I can say is this motor is an efficient little beast, I use it in my 450 Heli, and the power it produces is similar to the 2836 but with increased flight times. One thing though it is definitely not 3550kv, I know how they sound at 3000 head speed on a 450 heli as I have 4 of them all running between 2800 and 3000 head speed, this motor with a 12T pinion is way too much head speed even at 70% throttle, I am changing the pinion to a 10T because it really feel like a 3800kv motor, it is slightly faster that the 2836 in speed as I have that in my other heli and geared exactly the same with the same blades etc, and my 2836 produces 3100 head speed on a fully charged battery.
All in all this motor is efficient and doesnt bog down at 12 deg pitch, I have yet to install my Eagle Tree Logger to produce graphs of the results but my flight time doing normal circuits (no 3d) gave me 9.5 mins flight even though I set the throttle curve down making the motor less efficient.
The pop ups in comparison to the Align motor are much stronger and head speed is not effected like the Align motor.
All I can say is I will be buying more of these motors once I get a good graph of the AMP's and compare it against the 2836.
At this stage it's a definate winner for a 450 class heli.
I will be posting my results on my web site, for those who dont know my site simply search the net for HK450 and you will see the HK450 dot com web site which is my personal site with recommendations etc and my videos on fixes / builds.

Regards
Elias

20/05/2009
mr.sneezy (54%)
Anyone know if this is a stronger motor than the Z-power 450TH ?
Looking for an upgrade.

9/05/2009
CYBERNERO (69%)
TEST REVIEW -> see the review page
Grzegorz/ two way mount hole : 16mm, 18mm
NEIL/ has enough power with 3-cells

9/05/2009
NEIL (60%)
Does this motor have good power on three cells or does it need four?
Thanks

japie22 (49%)
It does have good power on 3S i dont think you could run it on 4S because of the high KV.

8/05/2009
Grzegorz (58%)
What's the distance between motor mount holes (eye to eye)?

Can anyone measure it?

8/05/2009
dude7422 (80%)
Watts = Volts times Amps) ( Amps = Watts divided by Volts)FROM DUDE7422 GET CLUE

8/05/2009
Crashinbash (80%)
looks like the exact same motor just labelled different. Yeah I wanted to try and get away with 30a est, or even align 35a esc. The turnigy 40aPlush is so big and clunky.

CYBERNERO (69%)
I think you can go with your 30A ESC. As you know, the capability(Amps) of ESC is better for bigger. But I think 'constant 30A' is enough for TYPHOON motor. Good luck^^

7/05/2009
Crashinbash (80%)
I was going to gear down to about 9 pinion. I want a lot more power than the stock motor is providing. Although it's the cf version it's still pretty heavy with aluminum fame and head parts combined with 200g battery. The blade length and overall lenth is same as my t-rex 450? If you look on youtube lots of people are using Align 3550kv motor on belt cp.

CYBERNERO (69%)
Sorry for my mension even not being have enough knowledge about the CP's set-up and especially your heli.^^ I think you're must be wright. After upgrading motor with 9T(or 10T) pinion, it will be more powerfull.

CYBERNERO (69%)
I think this motor is the same or quite similar as the 'INFINITY FX5' motor that sells In here, KOREA(south).
Look at the attached image. There's a lot of Korean flyers that using this motor. For the most, FX5 spend just only 16A (below 20A even max current). If this motor has same or similar spec, 40A ESC is enough as the HK said.

CYBERNERO (69%)
FX5

6/05/2009
Crashinbash (80%)
curious to know the max amp draw as it says 40a esc. I think I'll order one too for my belt cp se.

CYBERNERO (69%)
I think it's little bit over-power for belt cp heli.
(this motor is for the 450 size heli, but CP is rather 350~400 size, than 450 size)
Anyway, we can share the result. ^^

strike-down (62%)
The belt CP is a 450 class heli (trex 450: 700mm rotor diameter, belt cp: 680mm diameter) and I have the align 335 pro blades fitted to my belt cp, so the blade diameter is actually 720mm *)
The king 2 & king 3 are 400 size heli's

drdiscus (50%)
I've run the Belt on 315 blades and 325 blades. My issue with higher head speed is that the tail rotor on a stock CP is going to separate from the hub. If I upgrade to this mot or one like 28-36 with 13T pinion ( on the 2700 rpm per volt ) I would want to upgrade the tail rotor. It seem this motor is a good replacement motor...albeit in need of a reploacement pinion. This motor is probably NOT greater performance motor than the stock motor. You tell me...

6/05/2009
CYBERNERO (69%)
Just ordered now. When it comes to my hand, I will test the performance and report.

Robert (63%)
Does anyone know if any of the shafts sold here will fit this motor. Mine snapped off where the shaft comes out of the motor body - there seems to be a weak point where they cut the groove for the snap ring. Thanks for any help as I can't seem to find any good dimension info for the shafts they list under motor parts.

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