HobbyKing Online R/C Hobby Store : TURNIGY Sentilon100A HV 5-12S BESC (Ver4)

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22/07/2010
Jony (58%)
Has anyone tested the V4 with high timing? Does it still burn or had HK solved the problems?

mattyhawk (55%)
I received mine 7/15/2010. It works fine on medium timing w/ a Turnigy 50-65 SK 380KV on 8S and a 14.5x14.5 APC. No cogging / loss of timing. I saw online that these are the Hobbywing Platnum HV, and they had a bad run on those the same time these went bad. It seems the manufacturer found an error in the programming, and has since fixed it. I hope all is good, I don't want mine blowing up.

mattyhawk (55%)
Flew 5 flights this weekend, and no issues! I have to switch to high timing as I did get a minor motor sync issue, but high timing works very well. With 70A peak running through it, it is cool coming down.

mattyhawk (55%)
Another 4 flights this weekend, only one issue. The ESC got heat soaked from sitting in the summer sun for 2 hours, then when into thermal shutdown when I tried to fly. I had to move the ESC into better airflow, and it worked perfectly again. I have had no more timing issues on the Turnigy 50-65 380kv on 8S. Great ESC and seems the issues are worked out. Trust me, I was worried.

21/07/2010
Mark (50%)
Would this be OK for a T Rex 600 running align 600 motor sportsmoto.*****

20/06/2010
gspellmeier (70%)
Hi, I normaly use 2S Life packs to power my recievers. Will the life charged pack with 7.2V be a problem when used with this Sentilion ESC?

mattyhawk (55%)
There should be no problem powering your receiver as long as you do not go over voltage of the RX. I wouldn't try 7.2V on this ESC, but I thought the LiFe / A123 packs are 6.6 max voltage? If you are using the LiFe / A123 packs, I wouldn't worry about it.

12/06/2010
Anton (60%)
Is It use DirectFET MOSFet?

7/05/2010
rdlalf (27%)
.Mine does simply not work. it is connected with a jeti r8 receiver and a 6cell 5000mah accu. tried everything, programming card etc.. I see a red light flashing every second inside the controller ?! so far I am very disappointed. any hint what could be wrong ? many thanks for your help !

Witold (28%)
did u use with SBEC ? is no ubec so, not give power to receiver,regards

Johan (50%)
are you sure your throtle channel is not set on reverse ?

flyman (70%)
For programming you have to connect the motor!

rdlalf (27%)
The SBEC did not work properly. I changed it and since then the Sentilon 100 works perfect. Thank you all for your support !

16/04/2010
TrevJonez (78%)
mine popped sparks and smoked today for no reason. had 10 flights with those settings fine. just glad it was on the ground still.

dont use on a heli softstart is non existent and jerks it around hard

sajc7 (34%)
einfach nur genial . funktioniert einwandfrei.
haben den Regler mehrach verbaut!SPITZE

30/09/2009
W (55%)
Does this unit have a soft start and a governor for heli use

BigB (43%)
Gee it would be nice if it came into stock. Last I heard there was supposed to be 300 in stock and now it's back to -1 so they only got 100.

Cripes!

old crow (55%)
Hi!
It has soft- and super soft start, but no governor mode.

23/09/2009
baylordsmith (64%)
I have two of the older version and all ok. One of the new version on 10s I lose the bottom 1/3 of my throttle. Have to set my trim to full trim to even get any result from this setup. Running 63-64 turnigy. Also cannot get my card to work on the new version.
help please.

fire42 (68%)
The ESC seems much modified to the original, mine have 3 input capacitors, not the two i'm used to. The FETs are now metal cased and the board is not fully populated, which suggests better quality. Havent tried it on the LED style programming board, but the PCB boards have HW on them, and it looks very similar to my k-force 120HV. I'd dare to suggest they are made in that factory. No spark arrestfly-lead on these though, so I will have to fit my own. 1500uF in total, same as 120 kforce, which HAS got the resistor on

old crow (55%)
Hi!
I also fly with the 63-64 Turnigy and i had to use sub-trim and end-point adjustments to get mine to function properly,after that it works fine.
To get the card to function you must first disconnect the receiver-cable. Let the motor be connected to the ESC.
Then connect a receiver battery (4.8-6v) to "BATT" on the card.
Then you connect the main power pack to the ESC (Lipo)
Now the card should light up.
Then you just cycle through the setup and adjust to the settings you want,and confirm your settings with "OK"
After the blue LED has stopped flashing,the new settings have been stored and you can remove the programming card. Hope this helps.

10/09/2009
Brennerlein (70%)
Zitat von "Fahrenheit-145":

"""Du wirst keinen Regler finden der bis 12S/36Zellen geht mit BEC.
P.S.Schreibe zuk�nftig in Englisch,nur sehr wenige deutschsprechende wirst du hier finden"""

Was fr ein vollkommender Bldsinn! Ich fliege z.B. meinen T-Rex 700E mit einem Kontronik Jive HV 80+ mit einwandfreien internen BEC an 14S LiFePo4 und 12S LiPo.

Anscheinend weit du nicht wieviele deutsche hier einkaufen und auerdem ist es jedem selber berlassen in welcher Sprache er hier schreibt oder hat Textronik hierfr Regeln aufgestellt?

Fahrenheit-145 (87%)
Cool down, auch wenn du aus Hamburg stammst brauchst dich nicht gleich so aufspielen...
Falls es dir noch nicht aufgefallen ist befinden wir uns hier in einem Shop in dem ENGLISCH als Umgangssprache BLICH ist,und in diesem Shop findest du definitiv KEINEN der mit BEC hher als 8 Zellen geht,Oder bist du anderer Meinung??Weiters ist es ein Akt der Hflichkeit sich hier anzupassen(sprachlich)UND es ist eine gewisse Aroganz und Ignoranz dies nicht zu tun...(P.S.Die Herrenrasse hat nicht gewonnen....denk mal darber nach!)
P.

9/09/2009
borneobear (50%)
Update: I removed the Sentilon 100A HV from my and installed a Castle 85HV, and all 'misfiring' / mis-sync issues went away. So its not my motor, battery etc. Its the Sentilon.
That said, I check with two of my other heli buddies also using Sentilons, and they said they didn't have any issues. So my unit could be a dud.
How do I send this back for repair / replacement?

W (55%)
Are your friends using governor mode and is the soft start working well for them?

borneobear (50%)
No governor mode. The "soft start" for these ESCs are not exactly 'soft'. More like 'rough' start. LOL.

All-electric (89%)
Hi borneobear,
did exactly the same (bougth a Castle 85HV) - since then, my motor runs fine!

Straight Up (80%)
Sync loss is common on larger motors. I've experienced it, and beaten it with several set-ups simply by advancing the timing. Try "Medium" or "High" timing and you will nearly always find the problem goes away. This fix is a lot cheaper than a Castle 85HV!

7/09/2009
borneobear (50%)
Had a few flights with this ESC on my Trex600 8s1p and Z-Power 780kv outrunner.
Soft start isn't soft at all. Also having some bad sync issues when throttling up, especially around mid throttle. I've tried it on Mid and High timing, with Mid timing giving more 'misfires'. Will try Low timing today.
Good thing is it doesn't shut down when doing this - only loses power for an instant - so my bird remains flying.
Can't say I'm not disappointed. This is not a plug and play ESC as advertised.

4/09/2009
All-electric (89%)
Using this ESC with 12S and a large outrunner, it won't correctly start up. I tried adding larger capacitors (1000uF instead of 470uF), shorten cables etc. without success. When setting the throttle to a little amount, it will not start rotating, but zaps around and pumps too much current in the motor (stop immediately when you see this, it will burn up your motor!) To start it up, I had to give about 40-50% throttle for a short time, which spins it up correctly most of time.
I had to program about 7% throttle delay to avoid sync loss when kicking full throttle.
I tried out all settings for low mid and high timing.
With 10S LiPo, the Sentilon worked correctly, no complaints.
I replaced it with a Castle 85HV - which starts up as smooth as a baby, no sync losses whatever I do with the thottle stick, about 12% less current for same RPM **- but it costs twice as much. As always: You get what you pay for...

12/07/2009
Antonino (50%)
This regolator has the governor mode for helicopter?
Thanks

All-electric (89%)
yes, it has, but there is very little information about it. I didn't test it, but others seem to use it in helicopters / governor.

old crow (55%)
Hi!
It has not Governor mode,but has soft- and super soft start for helicopter use.

12/07/2009
Antonino (50%)
This regolator has the governor mode for helicopter?
Thanks

old crow (55%)
Hi!
It has not Governor mode,but has soft- and super soft start for helicopter use.

18/06/2009
kwiktsi (62%)
I have this ESC and will be using it with a Welgard 6362-10 286kv 14 pole motor. I see your note saying that some large motors need to run high timing or risk burning out the ESC. Should I run high timing with this motor or not? The instructions for the motor or ESC do not specify. Thank you.

26/05/2009
avronaut (50%)
Hi,
how can I activate the governor??? I tried it with the prog card. It shows Governor mode on, but it doesn't work.
Please help me!

old crow (55%)
Hi!
This ESC does not have Governor mode.
According to my manual it doesn't have this mode.

3/04/2009
iandre (72%)
J'arrive pas a le faire fonctionner avec la carte de programation.
J'ai essay� indiferament avec les deux prises "radios" du controlleur sans succ�s.
Y'a t-il un ordre de branchement a respecter entre l'accu / le lipo et le controlleur ?

mosch (50%)
what iS the differance in the 100AMPHV SPEED CONTROLS THERE ARE 2 LISTED thank you

mikiko (75%)
One is for USA market the other is for the rest.
Micky

David (50%)
Hi
Anyone knows if this esc is capable to work with some brake options it is programable? or simply it is on/off brake

Thanks
David

Karl (99%)
Brake on/off nooptions to progamable.
Greets Karl

Karl (99%)
Hi
This automatic controller has 4,0 I the same automatic controller with V 4,1 found. (Hobby Wing) which is differentiated V4.0 to 4.1?

Powerzonech (50%)
Hello
Has it governor mode?
Hat der Regler einen Governor mode?

Karl (99%)
Hallo
Ja er hat einen governor mode allerdings meine ich die Ver.4, welche allerdings schon �berarbeitet wurde. Am Bild sieht man 2 Elkos es sind aber drei verbaut. Softanlauf ist wirklich soft, gov. funktioniert tadellos habe ihn in einen TT620SE Hubi mit 2x5S Rihno 4900.Es gibt beim anstecken des 10S pack nur mehr einen kleinen bis garkeinen blitzer mehr. Bin restlos zufrieden damit im Hubi.
Greetings KARL

Xscorp (81%)
I have a Sentilon 100HV unit version 3.1 (the old one) with a Turnigy 64-63 230kv motor. My Funtana 2x2 died yesterday due to a lost sync between ESC and motor in a torque roll maniouver. I'm a little frustrated. Has anyone tested a similar combination (timing was high) with the 4.0 version and verify if the lost sync failure has been gone away??

Ian W (83%)
Sorry to hear of your loss. Even after years of seeing many aircraft crashes it still gets to me. No matter how good or bad the plane may be. Now for some info, I run the Turnigy 63-64 B on a Sentilon 100HV spinning a Turnigy 20x10. No sync loss although on my Sebart Sukhoi 140 I rarely get to 3/4 throttle and hovers around 1/2.

All-electric (89%)
Tested the Sentilon 100HV with Turnigy SK 63-74 170v at 10S. When opening throttle quickly, I get reproducable sync loss. Will not use this setup in any plane, until I know if it's the motor or the ESC.
Further, I can't get it to work with 12S, it doesn't start...

All-electric (89%)
Found out that this is a stability problem. Too long and thin wires, too small capacities... After shortening the wires from battery to ESC, and taking thicker ones, plus adding some capacitors (1000uF / 50V), it worked. Much less sync loss risk! I've found out that the start up behavior of the motor is directly linked to potential sync loss. If it starts up with shaking and screaming only, you risk to have sync loss during flight. The opposite needs to be checked (smooth startup, no sync loss - I'm not sure about this!)

Hugo (97%)
Hi Matthias,
thanks for the info. Can you tell me the capacity the ESC already has?
Cheers,
Hugo

fire42 (68%)
Hi Hugo
It has two 470uF 50v capacitors. I've wrote this elsewhere but my new one has 3 capacitors now, still 470uF....and a revised powerboard, bearing a striking similarity to the KForce ESC's I've replaced them with 2 low ESR 1000uF caps rated to 63V. Not convinced that these ESC's are good for 3D in any guise.
dave

All-electric (89%)
Hi,
you're right, fire42, I wouldn't use this in for 3D or any other really critical application... Changed to Castle 85HV, all problems gone now.

Bradley (79%)
Does anyone know why there are two radio connections?

propnut (36%)
The instruction sheet says the shorter lead is just for the program card.

ktaylor (81%)
Quick question.. Why would you buy the HV controller at $100 when you plan on running 4s? Why not buy the 2s-6s 100 amp version at $65 instead?

Mine works fine on 10 cell. I haven't tried it out yet on 12 cell. Still have to actually fly a plane with it installed as well, but the bench tests are looking good. The high timing mode seems to apply to motors over 50 mm in diameter. My 50-65 worked fine with it on default timing on 8 cell. When I tested a towerpro 235kv 5330 on 10s with it, I got the weird funky screeching noises at 1/2 throttle. High timing took care of it, & but also increased the amp draw. Increasing the pulse width modulation (PWM) brought the amps back down some.

bigsteve (-6%)
I got it for a HV setup but as it was suppose to work on 4s at the time I tried to use it in a 4s setup. I have since got the 2-6s version :D

GlenRose (71%)
when the battery voltage sags below 13v in my setup the red led starts flashing and a slow beep comes out, so id very much doubt 2 cells is going to power it. havent tested it conclusively though

propnut (36%)
I may have missed it but is this not a 5 cell minimum ESC. I know the picture says 2-12 for some weird reason but the specs say 5-12 cells. Could that be why the ESC was not powering up with only 4 cells that Stephen was using? Larry

bigsteve (-6%)
You know I never noticed that before but you are spot on. I wonder if that was an omission before ? Someone in the webpage updates got a bit slack :)

tomapowa (88%)
WHEN ARE THESE EVER GOING TO GET BACK IN STOCK ???? :)

frankswd (66%)

Here's my video of a 3D Yak using this ESC and other Turingy power systems parts. I get about 3:30 flights using 80% rule for big lipo batterys.

This is a 12S1P setup with this ESC. No problems drawing 100+ amps in burst

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Plus my blog which has more data logged data. These are accurate facts!

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Enjoy!

Frank

frankswd (66%)
Looks like the ***** need to be replaced with http colon and back slash and www and **** to make the links work. I guess spam filtering or checking***good idea actually!

Matthias/Iris (42%)
Hello!
My turnigy is broken after first using? Whats happened?
The Motor a leadershobby for 10 cells has done alittle move and brum and after that the sentilion is without function.
Why?

TLuttrell (50%)
Anyone having throttle issues with their ESC? I have to be at throttle before the motor has enough thrust to move the Plane, I think I should have sufficient thrust under half throttle to move the plane and keep it in flight. I have pan caked my plane several time coming in for a landing under throttle. Anny advice would be greatly appreciated.

TLuttrell (50%)
Anyone having throttle issues with their ESC? I have to be at half throttle before the motor has enough thrust to move the Plane, I think I should have sufficient thrust under half throttle to move the plane and keep it in flight. I have pan caked my plane several time coming in for a landing under throttle. Anny advice would be greatly appreciated. Using on 25% Sukhoi with HXT 63-64-B 230Kv - motor and 20x10 prop.

GlenRose (71%)
hey, i got this controller, works much better then the old OEMRC.

BUT im running a KD45 700kv motor. problem is motor starts up and goes to half power. if i reduce power and go back to full it will run at full speed.

any advice? soft start is off and timing is low (works ***rly off the other timing modes)

bigsteve (-6%)
Damn looks like I have the same problem just a red light blinking nothing else on 3s and 4s. It works fine on 5s and 6s but thats not good to me :(

Lorenz (65%)
ehhh... isnt it labeld as 5-12 lipo cells? *)
that'd explain that *)...

baykah (66%)
Hello, are those with the new software version ?
(better with big outrunner)

Bellmund (69%)
Hi all,

I will ask again, do I have to choose the "high timing mode" as recommended for large motors... normaly the timing for 2pol motors is low ?

The motor will be: KD36-74-09XL 1900kv Brushless Inrunner on 6s1p.$

cheers

Straight Up (80%)
I would recommend at least "medium" timing, and possibly "high". Helps avoid sync problems.

Bellmund (69%)
I am going to use this esc with a KD36-74-09XL 1900kv Brushless Inrunner on 6s1p.

Do I have to choose the "high timing mode" as recommended for large motors... normaly the timing for 2pol motors is low ?

Thanks

Stephen (50%)

I just received the Turnigy Sentilon 100A HV controller and wired it to a 4S Li-Po pack and a Turnigy C801100-180 motor (no prop). When I power up the transmitter, receiver, and controller, there are no beeps emitted. A red LED inside the controller flashes two times and then repeats. I tried moving the throttle stick position and I still don't get any beeps. Can anyone tell me what is wrong. This unit is brand new, just received today.

Thanks,

Steve

Terry (50%)
I have the same issue have emailed support to find out if there is a solution.

DrEvil (60%)
Hello Terry and Stephen...
Any news regardind the red LED flashing and no beeps from the ESC ??

Best regards
Kai

Stephen (50%)
Kai,

I was told to return the unit, which I haven't done due to international shipping hassles. Seems some of the "buyer beware" warnings I've heard about these websites is true.

fgj99 (89%)
I have two 100A HV controller. Both controller have the same problem. No function out of box, just the red flashing led. UH told me also to send it back. In the UH forum also same people have the same problem. I think the quality is really bad for this controller series.
****
Frank

Kevin (79%)
It is a very good idea to buy the (cheap) Turnigy program card. Also you will find that this card will program quite a few types of ESCs.

Sharik (85%)
Hi Guys
You can`t use this esc with 4 cell lipo, only 5 and more !!

joshuyo (75%)
Sharik is exactly right!
If you use this esc with anything smaller than 5s the red led will be blinking and nothing else happens.
-> Lipo Cells: 5-12

Acim21 (61%)
You have to keep the throttle full and connect the battery to the ESC then when you hear 2 beep's release the throttle and you're ready. Depending on your engine to regulate the timing.
search.
Rui Viana

bobtucker (80%)
WARNING: For some large motors, you must use ''High'' timing mode. Failure to do so will result in a burnt esc.

what is a "large" motor? How do we know which ones are safe?

Yoav (39%)
Hello,
Does any one know What timing mode should I use with the Turnigy Sentilon 100A HV and a TURNIGY 50-65D 270kv Outrunner ?
Can I have a quick explanation about timing modes?

fvannierop (62%)
its a catamaran speedboat,so i gues..forced aircooling system might be best,bu can't find anyone,you can suggest me some ,and from which page ?
abt the cables: i meant not the black an dred one,but : the 3 red ones which go to the motorcables :red/black and yellow ??

thanks a lot for all the answers,
best regards

Kevin (79%)
francis,
You don't need a high voltage ESC for a KB45 motor. Any more then 6S LiPo will cook this motor and it can't use the HV type of ESC. I even milled extra air vents into the front and back plates of these motors and they still run hot even on 5S. Have a look at ETTI ESCs on eBay and you will find that they are good for racing even. I used to use Castle Creations Hydra 240A ESCs for these motors but I am not sure what Amps they draw under load. Now I only use Neu, Lehner, Plettenburg motors for racing due to the power and the fact that they outlast numerous of the cheaper motors. For restricted class I use Aqua Craft motors because of the high torque and lasting ability of a cheaper motor. You state that you want an air cooling system for a cat. but what happens when you finally flip the boat? We do bring in some good Chinese ESCs that we attach a water cooling sink to (also use thermal grease) plus we attach a 35mm computer fan on top of this to keep things cool.
With the wires to the ESC, I try to match the colors but if the motor goes in reverse I change the 2 other than the red wire.
Hope this helps.

Mark Harris (84%)
Just plug the motor wires in, if it spins the wrong way, switch TWO of the wires.

air cooling usually works, just place it in an area of your aircraft that has lots of air moving through it.

John (84%)
Does this ESC have an effective Governor mode?

fvannierop (62%)
1-got a KB45-08XL 1700kv Brushless Inrunner,which colors to be connected to the TURNIGY Plush 100amp Speed Controller ?
2-this TURNIGY Plush 100amp Speed Controller,which is the best way for its cooling system ?

rgds Francis

-Reply from Mark*
Just plug the motor wires in, if it spins the wrong way, switch TWO of the wires.

air cooling usually works, just place it in an area of your aircraft that has lots of air moving through it.
-Reply from francis*
its a catamaran speedboat,so i gues..forced aircooling system might be best,bu can't find anyone,you can suggest me some ,and from which page ?
abt the cables: i meant not the black an dred one,but : the 3 red ones which go to the motorcables :red/black and yellow ??

thanks a lot for all the answers,
best regards

fvannierop (62%)
please explain,cant understand a word,as im new in all this

Deryn (87%)
Plugging the 3 motor cables in incorrectly will not damage anything. If it is wrong, the motor will just spin in reverse. If this happens switch two wires around and it will go forwards.

Water-cooling would probably be best for a boat.

castel (74%)
Michel
Cette carte de programmation peut elle servir pour les controllers de 100amp
merci
Michel

VUO4E (47%)
Oui, aucun probl�me. Contrairement aux autres variateurs de Turnigy, le 100A ne fait pas de "musique" apr�s le branchement des batt., donc pas programmable. Tout le reste oui. Inrunner: avance bas.
Pieter

castel (74%)
Bonsoir Pieter,
Merci de votre r�ponse,
une autre question avant mon achat: je vois sur la carte de programation la prise BEC branch�e! hors il n'y a pas de prise BEc sur le controler 100Amp puisque c'est un opto!! donc on n'utilise donc pas cette prise * cel� n'emp�che pas la programmation?ensuite mode governor �� sert � quoi?, excusez moi de ma naivet�.
Cordialement
Michel

VUO4E (47%)
Attention: la prise BEC dans le cas du 100HV est simplement un pack recepteur de 4.8 V. Pour les variateurs avec BEC, il faut just brancher la prise du variateur. Dans ce cas-ci, il y a donc la prise du variateur + l'alimentation venant d'un pack s�par� de 4.8V. Respecter l'ordre de branchement !!

castel (74%)
Merci Pieter.

martiman (63%)
Remove the heatsink and fabricate a water cooling plate (aluminum - around 5-6mm thick) to replace it. That's what I did.

iandre (72%)
J'arrive pas a le faire fonctionner avec la carte de programation.
J'ai essay� indiferament avec les deux prises "radios" du controlleur sans succ�s.
Y'a t-il un ordre de branchement a respecter entre l'accu / le lipo et le controlleur ?

johoff (62%)
Kann man diesen Regler mit 12 S und BEC in einem Heli im Reglerbetrieb einsetzen?

Fahrenheit-145 (87%)
Dieser Regler besitzt kein BEC ist ein reiner Optokopplerregler!!
Du wirst keinen Regler finden der bis 12S/36Zellen geht mit BEC.
P.S.Schreibe zuk�nftig in Englisch,nur sehr wenige deutschsprechende wirst du hier finden
Gru� aus Wien
Peter

VUO4E (47%)
It's of no importance: just connect them. If you see the motor is turning the wrong way, you switch 2 of the three wires.

norbique (-7%)
In a speedboat you may try adding water cooling.

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